Washington...mmm less then impressive...
How did Michael Jordan make his teammates better?
Look at these stats:
Horace Grant 12.63 points 8.7 rebounds (1987-1994, Chicago Bulls with Michael Jordan)
Horace Grant 9.7 Points 7.0 rebounds (1994-2004 Orlando Magic, Seattle Supersonics, LA Lakers)
Big drop? Further more...
BJ Armstrong 10.2 points 3.38 assists (1989-1995 Chicago Bulls with Michael Jordan)
BJ Armstrong averaged 6.4 Points 2.63 assists for 1995-2000 palying for Golden State Warriors, Orlando Charlotte Hornets, Chicago Bulls
These are the teammates you call great... But without Michael Jordan?... How About Pip?
Scottie Pippen averaged 17.63 points 10 Seasons with Michael Jordan
Scottie Pippen averaged 12.51 points in 7 seasons apart from Jordan including the 1993-1994 season he served as interim-leader of the Chicago Bulls.
Yes he needed these guys to win the damn rings but apart from him they were also ordinary cept for Pippen.
How did Michael Jordan made his teammates better again? Please tell me why these players drop their numbers apart from Michael Jordan?
how many 40 year olds have u seen play basketball? it showed how determined he was and how strong too. If he didnt have tendinitus in his knees, he would have led them into the playoffs and who knows what else.
you talk alot basketoz, but your avatar's very pleasing
Sorry bout that, at times i run with it, and when frustrated it becomes a long winded post, more the fact that people base opinion on the love or adoration for a guy, rather then facts and figures.
Pippen was soft and always will be, i rest my case on him no question, i dont rate him, good player no question, but far from being in the 50 greatest players or whatever of all time.
clearly grasped both Jordan and the Bulls had meagre success.
Well on two accounts he was merely motivated in my opinion to play to ensure the value of the Wizards was increased financially, which evidently it did so, and secondly, he assembled the roster and a considerable say over the running of the team....and mmmm less then impressive is my grade on that end result....much the same to the current standing of the Bobcats.
Off topic..... but did you just compliment Collingwood??
Former Chicago Bulls great Scottie Pippen says he's serious about coaching, and if there is an opening with the Chicago Bulls, he believes he's perfect.
"What's my disadvantage?" Pippen asked. "No NBA coaching experience? [Scott] Skiles' record with the Bulls wasn't that great. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to do what you've done your whole life. I've played basketball, run teams and won.
"They didn't put me at point guard because I could dribble good. They put me there because I could run a team. I wasn't the best dribbler, the best shooter. I wasn't a point guard. But I knew how to run a team."
Source: Chicago Tribune
Mate, Jordan ain't motivated by money, but Lebron is. Jordan donated all his earning as a Wizard to help the victims of the September 11th tragedy attack on US.
Besides Jordan stated that he wouldn't have come back to the Wizards if he knew he was gonna to get the sack in the end.The wizards used him.... Jordan played injured, went through surgery and did many of the things the young players today in the league won't even do. He didn't have to to it at all, but he did it to help the Wizards organisiation win ball games.That to me say's alot about how great Jordan really was.
These comments just show that you know very little about basketball LOL. You claiming Mike wasn't the greatest and now your calling Pippen soft.Can i ask you how can he have won 6 rings with the Bulls if he was SOFT????????.
Many here will also agree with me that Pip is one of the top 50 players of all-time if you weren't BLIND.
Jordan could have easily done it without Pippen and Phil but he could not have done it without another player of Pippens caliber. I think Phil's role in their championships is more than slightly overrated. However one player cannot win a championship alone (unless everyone else is terrible) that is why a supporting cast is needed.
A great player makes everyone else around him better, that was the case with Jordan and Pippen, Jordan allowed Pippen to come into his own as a good player through many different ways. I believe that Jordan could have brought the saMe thing to the table with almost any other team.
Pippen's always struck me as a person of about-average intelligence. Of course, I forget how many truly dumb people are out there; so maybe he's average as basketball players go. Or somewhat above.
Head coach needs to be a person of considerably-above-average intelligence. Let's just say 'very smart', to be brief. Pippen has a track record that includes some pretty dumb things-done. One that he reveals is an apparent unwillingness to be an assistant.
"Best 2nd-banana" isn't really a universal best resume'-entry. Prove that you can co-exist within a team management hierarchy. I'm sure Scottie would make a better coach than most ex-players. But there are only 30 head coach positions, vs thousands of ex-players.
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you cannot be bagging jordan for his comeback to the wizards.. the man did some amazing things playing on a bad knee at the age of 40.. amazing.. I'm still in denial, and did not want to see him play again after 98, let alone play again for another team.. makes me sick to the stomach, but you can't say he didn't do much.. not his fault the team sucked, and kwame (at the time) was a bust..
not his fault the team sucked, and kwame (at the time) was a bust..
how many 40 year olds have u seen play basketball? it showed how determined he was and how strong too. If he didnt have tendinitus in his knees, he would have led them into the playoffs and who knows what else.
Yeh your right, it's up to the players to perform. Can't blame Jordan.
When he was with the Wizards he didn't have a competitive fire or a solid work ethic. Some players only play for the money. Since the NBA has guaranteed contracts once you sign you are going to get your money. When money is your motivator and you already have that in the bag why work hard? He is just used to being able to physically dominate over high school guys and with no college experience to ease him into that next level he was overwhelmed and gave up.
They need someone called Jordan to be running the show. MJ would be a perfect fit since he can be a player/manager just like with the Wizards 5 yrs ago.
Bring Jordan back to rebuild to the Bulls.Jordan belongs to the Bulls.There ain't anyone who has the credentials like Jordan has.
I can only dream but Jordan is now the perfect fit for the job.What he has done for the Bobcats this season can not be understated. Bottom line is Jordan has a proven record and Paxton has not(cept for that title winning shot against the suns in 93).Pls Mike come back to the Bulls we need you now!!!
What BROWN???...... I'm hope you don't mean Kwame Brown lol, that guy is one of the worst players in this league.Has no post moves, no jump shot, no speed, no defense, and no potential. He is just flat out a player who is making the NBA slip in appeal and is just an embarrassment to the NBA and every organization.
Jordan simply wanted to retire as legend and felt it was right time and also didn't want to play a lock-out shortened season.
Jordan could of won on any team without them, but he needed a Pippen-like player to help him win the rings.
how many 40 year olds have u seen play basketball? it showed how determined he was and how strong too. If he didnt have tendinitus in his knees, he would have led them into the playoffs and who knows what else.
These comments just show that you know very little about basketball LOL. You claiming Mike wasn't the greatest and now your calling Pippen soft.Can i ask you how can he have won 6 rings with the Bulls if he was SOFT????????.
I think Phil's role in their championships is more than slightly overrated.
I believe that Jordan could have brought the saMe thing to the table with almost any other team.
Mate, Jordan ain't motivated by money, but Lebron is. Jordan donated all his earning as a Wizard to help the victims of the September 11th tragedy attack on US.
Besides Jordan stated that he wouldn't have come back to the Wizards if he knew he was gonna to get the sack in the end.The wizards used him....
Whilst Jordan may not have been the player he was with the Bulls. He was still better than 3/4 of the league alone. Jordan also proved he still had it to perform in pressure situations...hitting clutch shots at all-star games, hitting game winners over Cleveland, Suns, Knicks etc.Nobody could do it better than Mike at that age
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