Essendon a disgrace!

[hobbibox]

oh hang on, one last thing.. all those teams you mentioned have goal kicking midfielders.. tell me.. who kicks goals from essendons midfield?

i suppose if you lose tarrant/rocca that collingwood would still be a great kicking side..

and i suppose if lynch played the grand final you would have won? i agree with that because at least he could have been used as a forward decoy, or even as a tall target down forward.. the difference between winning and losing that gf was having no FF

One minute u say tarrant leads to middle of the ground and thats all you get from the guy, then your very next post u mention him alongside rocca as a great kicker rofl talk about contradicting yourself. lol classic

 

[white_chocolate_55]

Once again this year tarrant leads the AFL in goal assists if only every team had such an unselfish forward, maybe you wouldnt be fighting for the spoon.

cealrly a superstar of the afl..

 

[Ja$e]

and i suppose if lynch played the grand final you would have won?

As in Quentin Lynch? He's just a big dude who has trouble holding onto marks, and grows a little hilter moustache every once in awhile. LOL He is no way considered a "FF", he could be but thats not how the eagles play.

What happened to that big blonde dreadied guy that the Dons played last year, he could've shown some promise if they gave him a bit more time?

 

[white_chocolate_55]

One minute u say tarrant leads to middle of the ground and thats all you get from the guy, then your very next post u mention him alongside rocca as a great kicker rofl talk about contradicting yourself. lol classic

classic hey...

roll on the floor laughing like the knob you are.. but we both know he can kick goals, and is a forward target against other sides other than essendon.. i say that because i dont see him kick goals against us much..

 

[hobbibox]

classic hey...

roll on the floor laughing like the knob you are.. but we both know he can kick goals, and is a forward target against other sides other than essendon.. i say that because i dont see him kick goals against us much..

"we both know he can kick goals" ?? you just said all he does is lead to the middle of the ground and thats all you get from the guy...make up your mind.

 

[white_chocolate_55]

As in Quentin Lynch? He's just a big dude who has trouble holding onto marks, and grows a little hilter moustache every once in awhile. LOL He is no way considered a "FF", he could be but thats not how the eagles play.

What happened to that big blonde dreadied guy that the Dons played last year, he could've shown some promise if they gave him a bit more time?

your talking about johns.. he's over rated big time.. leave the dud out...


and yes lynch, gf day he coulda been a ff.. the guys a dud, but you funnily need him in your forward line

 

[white_chocolate_55]

"we both know he can kick goals" ?? you just said all he does is lead to the middle of the ground and thats all you get from the guy...make up your mind.

ohhh well i wonder where he gets his goals from??

im saying all i see the guy doing is mark mid ground, like hall, and run off..

ah good luck to you and this topic.. im out of it.. clearly a pies fan

lol rofl ffs soymc lmao

 

[bargey]

esendon dont need a FF, the classic role of the FF is being phased out in modern footy, look at the top sides, do any of they have a FF kicking 8 every week? no, its midfield where the game is won and lost these days. melbourne doesnt rely on neitz as much and look at how much they have improved, same with sydney and hall, pies and tarrant etc. having one focal point for your offence these days is stupid. the crows have no specialist forwards really and theyre the best team in the league.

No, clubs don't need a FF these days.

The last five premiership sides:

North with Wayne Carey
Essendon with Matty Lloyd
Brisbane with Alistair Lynch
Port with Warren Tredrea
Sydney with Barry Hall

Who needs a focal point....

 

[Ja$e]

and yes lynch, gf day he coulda been a ff.. the guys a dud, but you funnily need him in your forward line

True, but he's started playing more of an up the ground role like Barry Hall. Now he is one overrated FF (waits for heated discussion to take place)! He takes so many uncontested marks halway up the ground, his opposing player lets him do this because he is not dangerous in this area. And he gets mad points in the AFL dream team competition becaus of this, and more and more FF are following suite!

In case you didn't hear me HALL OVERRATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just look at his numbers on grand final day...didn't do shit but take marks and peg it into the forward line!

 

[Ja$e]

Sydney with Barry Hall

Who needs a focal point....

O'loughlin turned out to be the focal point and he just missed too many times. Sydney probably would have played the same even if Hall had gotten rubbed out.

 

[JZA]

neitz isnt any good so you cant bring him into the picture..

but what about lynch when he played? what about gehrig, how many did he kick last year? fevola, what was that on sunday?

my point is, we have no forward options.. your naming alot of great full forwards of the game, but are you to tell me they do nothing? dont mention tarrant either.. he marks mid ground, and thats about all you'll get from that guy.. we need some tall timber down there.. if theres no FF in the game, then why have a position called that? why have a tall forward down to play that spot? lloyd was a marking machine down there, or a free kick taker, we dont have anyone near his quality to back him up.. and dont tell me theres no need to back him up.. because look at the full backs.. they're taller that what we've got down forward..

anyways... i dont really care about essendon right now.. no need.. so bag away

neitz was one of the topgoal kickers in the lead (didnt he win a coleman or 2?) and the focal point of the dees offence, they dont rely on him as much anymore and look at the improvement. lynch was good, but without the midfield delivery from aker, black, voss, power etc etc he wouldnt have been too effective. gehrig is not effective, same with fev...yes sometimes they kick a bag, but does that equate to team success? hell no. the pies used to rely pretty heavily on tarrant, but now they are way more effective and dangerous sharing the load. the rest of your points are pretty much gibberish, i have no idea...

 

[hobbibox]

Its all the losses the dons are havin hes getting emotional and making no sense

 

[wolvesjr34]

Hands up who would like to see Essendon finish last this year? Hands up who would be ecstatic if they don't win another game this year?

*hands up*

I'm happy even if Hawthorn loses for the rest of the year cos we stole a game from Essendon hehehe tho we have to beat them late in the year too, then I'll be truly satisfied.

I'm not about arguing merits of the team or not... I don't care if they play with their top 22 and lose or field a seconds team I just like to see them lose.

 

[white_chocolate_55]

yeah i turned it into gibberish cos i couldnt really be bothered.. who ever you and those other guy supports will happily say the ff is ruling out either because they have goal kicking midfielders, or they dont have a good ff but still manage to win games.. my point, essendon relies on lloyd and goal kicking from the forward line.. sheeds is a very old fashioned coach and coaches that way.. hate it or love it..

 

[white_chocolate_55]

Its all the losses the dons are havin hes getting emotional and making no sense

yes.. because I'm so so sad.. and have nothing else to do but watch football..

 

[hobbibox]

Essendon arent actually my most hated team I just like winding their supporters up like white-choc
I hate Brisbane Adelaide Port and Carlton much more than the dons

 

[JZA]

No, clubs don't need a FF these days.

The last five premiership sides:

North with Wayne Carey
Essendon with Matty Lloyd
Brisbane with Alistair Lynch
Port with Warren Tredrea
Sydney with Barry Hall

Who needs a focal point....

wayne carey was a CHF. essendon are this season showing the effectiveness of relying on one focal point up forward. lynch was a pretty effective forward, but the midfield carried most of the load, they didnt rely mostly on him to win matches, like essendon do with lloyd. tredrea is more of a CHF, he leads well outside the 50.

anyway, the point i was making is going way off tangent here, i was talking about how the classic role of a FF is becoming obsolete in the modern game, and the top teams in the league are demonstrating this with their team structure and style of play. i think that much is pretty obvious. the days of the locketts, dunstals, modras, lloyds are over.

 

[white_chocolate_55]

Hands up who would like to see Essendon finish last this year? Hands up who would be ecstatic if they don't win another game this year?

*hands up*

I'm happy even if Hawthorn loses for the rest of the year cos we stole a game from Essendon hehehe tho we have to beat them late in the year too, then I'll be truly satisfied.

I'm not about arguing merits of the team or not... I don't care if they play with their top 22 and lose or field a seconds team I just like to see them lose.

wouldnt be because of the 2001 prelim final is it? or because leigh mathews last game ended in tears? or the game blumfield kicked a goal, but it really hit the post and we won by a point? or because the day dermie told you to draw the line we came out and blew you away?

is that why you don't like us?

you'd be pretty damn shit to lose to us that's for sure.. we won't win another game this year, but if we do, then that's gotta be an upset..

 

[white_chocolate_55]

Essendon arent actually my most hated team I just like winding their supporters up like white-choc
I hate Brisbane Adelaide Port and Carlton much more than the dons

keep on winding shoes..

 

[wolvesjr34]

wayne carey was a CHF. essendon are this season showing the effectiveness of relying on one focal point up forward. lynch was a pretty effective forward, but the midfield carried most of the load, they didnt rely mostly on him to win matches, like essendon do with lloyd. tredrea is more of a CHF, he leads well outside the 50.

anyway, the point i was making is going way off tangent here, i was talking about how the classic role of a FF is becoming obsolete in the modern game, and the top teams in the league are demonstrating this with their team structure and style of play. i think that much is pretty obvious. the days of the locketts, dunstals, modras, lloyds are over.

Dunstall! spell it right LOL

I agree JZA very few teams can really on a mark and lead full forward also capable of holding his own in the goal square.... its a shame cos I don't think we will see many more 100 goal seasons from anyone..... which is very sad cos I just loved watching for the 100 goal season.....