Completed lilreddevil and juddfeb25

[lilreddevil]

lilreddevil sends:
2x 2010-11 SP Authentics Hobby Boxes

juddfeb25 sends:
$$ via paypal
All cards listed here: http://www.ozcardtrader.com.au/foru...7-busted-10-11-sp-authentic-box-all-sale.html

Agreed?

 

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[juddfeb25]

agree as per pm

 

[graham]

juddfeb please provide an update on this trade ASAP

 

[lilreddevil]

Great...4 weeks and still no payment. And you haven't been online in over a week. ****ing joke.

 

[lilreddevil]

Still waiting. I can understand your excuse but where's the money? If you can pay for this before why can't you pay for it now?

 

[graham]

Still waiting. I can understand your excuse but where's the money? If you can pay for this before why can't you pay for it now?

Can I ask why you refunded the payment that was originally made ??

 

[lilreddevil]

That was my bad. I thought I asked for a gift payment since he wanted to pay cash before but I didn't. I wanted a gift payment because we couldn't seem to agree on a meet-up time as Michael didn't want to pay postage to send the cards over to me either and I needed the money urgently for some deals I had going on. He said he would transfer it again after 5 days because the refund meant that it would take another 5 days to reach his bank account again.

 

[graham]

That was my bad. I thought I asked for a gift payment since he wanted to pay cash before but I didn't. I wanted a gift payment because we couldn't seem to agree on a meet-up time as Michael didn't want to pay postage to send the cards over to me either and I needed the money urgently for some deals I had going on. He said he would transfer it again after 5 days because the refund meant that it would take another 5 days to reach his bank account again.

And yet the information in the second post above states

Payments should not be sent via PayPal as a "gift". Doing so leaves you with no recourse in the event something goes wrong.

So you had the money and sent it back because the other guy sent payment as normal and you neglected to mention this all along .....

 

[lilreddevil]

And yet the information in the second post above states



So you had the money and sent it back because the other guy sent payment as normal and you neglected to mention this all along .....

I had the money for 2 hours. That was over a month ago on 18 August. I sent it back to him, we had a discussion through PMs, agreed that he would not send it as a gift and he said he would negotiate with me another day to meet up and pay me. All he tried to do was sell me the cards he had just busted from my boxes to lower the payment and we never got a date settled, we still don't. He sent this over 3 weeks ago:

pls let me know which ones , i will be in syd end of week drop them off and cash

are u after jordan base aswell as i have 40+ some gd value

 

[lilreddevil]

So I guess I'm the one in the wrong now? Another week has gone by and still nothing...

 

[lilreddevil]

Part payment and some cards received. Cards are damaged but I'll let it pass. Progress being made

 

[lilreddevil]

Still waiting on the second half of payment to be made...

 

[lilreddevil]

Still nothing. Parcel was supposed to be posted out 2 weeks ago...

 

[lilreddevil]

Lahlahlah and it's the end of the week. Got another 2 weeks to post buddy or I'll come around and pay you a visit :v:

 

[jared_davey]

have you still got the boxes? or does juddfan have them?

 

[lilreddevil]

have you still got the boxes? or does juddfan have them?

Never got them back. He's busted them already. I've got $120 and the cards he owed me from the deal. Still waiting on the other $120...

 

[jared_davey]

right i see. that sucks man.

 

[Big Ticket]

if you still have his address send him a hand written letter explaining the problems. If he dosent reply to THAT in a week, then you can pay him a visit

 

[lilreddevil]

if you still have his address send him a hand written letter explaining the problems. If he dosent reply to THAT in a week, then you can pay him a visit

Obviously I still have his address otherwise how would I be able to pay him a visit?

On another note: $60 received by paypal...