smc2910
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Think he needs a future mentorEither way it was a brain fart from Garnett and shouldn't have happened. Now the Celts are without him for game 2 when they should have him on deck to put the nail in!
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Think he needs a future mentorEither way it was a brain fart from Garnett and shouldn't have happened. Now the Celts are without him for game 2 when they should have him on deck to put the nail in!
See that's where you're wrong.
You talk about Q's "history" and about what he "barked" to Pierce/Garnett.
None of that matters, it's purely circumstantial.
The NBA front office has a hard time with these situations and that is exactly why they make it so cut and dry - like I said.
The bottom line is - one a player makes it physical that is crossing the line.
It is as black and white as that.
Garnett threw the elbow = He's out.
Q didn't get physical = just a fine, despite whatever provocation you think happened, or whatever past history he has with Pierce.
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I think the other Celts will step up and make it hard for the Heat in Game 2, but Garnett played a significant role in Game 1.
His energy and hustle gave the Heat headaches. Take into account those two alley-oop plays as well, and his defense on Michael Beasley.
Personally, and I'll go on the record and say I haven't liked Garnett for years, I can't see how he could've AVOIDED suspension for that. From what I remember, Dwight got a game suspension for throwing an elbow that apparently didn't even connect in last year's play-offs. And if you want to talk about Q-rich's "history", I'd advise against it, coz it pales in comparison to KG's... And I'm sure a majority of basketball fans who aren't Boston supporters would agree with Q-rich's assessment of KG and particularly Pierce, as "actresses".
no and no
you have no where else to take this argument, not sure how else I can explain it.
I don't think you understand.
You make it out like there are a whole lot of other factors involved, but when the NBA Front Office sat down to look at the tape of the brawl, only ONE factor made them suspend Garnett and not do the same for Q.
Garnett got physical.
That's the bottom line.
While it may seem unfair because Q provoked him and has had 'previous altercations' with Pierce - the suspension decision comes down to the fact that Garnett connected with and threw an elbow.
I don't know why you refuse to accept this, or seem to think that I don't understand.
That's what it came down to at the end of the day. You may not agree, but that's just how the decision was made.
I do, and, you don't
the end
as much as it may help you to sleep at night you can't solve every problem that arises based on rules
I re-read the post above after you edited it. Helped me make more sense of where you're coming from.
Yes in your opinion it is a grey area. And for the most part I can see why you say that. If Q hadn't provoked Garnett then Garnett wouldn't have thrown the elbow, and hence wouldn't be suspended. So I guess you could say it started with Q and hence is a grey area as Garnett has copped a worse penalty than Q.
What I'm SAYING though is,
The NBA Front Office DON'T LOOK AT IT AS A GREY AREA. They have to make a decision so they make straight down the line based on who exhibited physical behaviour.
You say
But in this case that's EXACTLY what the NBA has done. They have suspended Garnett, based on a rule.
You throw an elbow, you're out for a game. How much clearer can it be? Dwight got thrown for it last year, KG this year. It's just the rule.
If you don't understand that then there's nothing else that can be said. Can anyone help me out here?
I'd say there is a grey area, hence their provision for allowing review and re-classification of flagrant fouls given by refs - so they're saying that a flagrant foul may be called F1, but on review they can change it to F2, that means it is subjective, not black and white. base that in all the incorrect and missed calls this year and you absolutely have some grey.
i just think they shouldn't have been so hasty in dishing out the suspension, as you say, on past examples it seemed expected, though I don't know the Dwight Howard instance and doubt there was any underlying issue as in this case.
No-one can help you out also, you came into a Celtics thread, trying to convince a member, with the name GarnettFan4Life, that his fav player shouldn't be suspendedmate that was a lost cause from your first post I just thought a bit of convo would liven up these threads a bit, it's PLAYOFF time!!!!! pump up!!!!!!!!
You mean should right?
Anyway I see what you're getting at. We're both right
But yeah, agree to disagree. Although I think we just got caught up on a few little things but really knew what each other was meaning the whole time.
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Glad garnett got suspended. He deserved it!
He is sooo dirty!
Pierce is such a girl and goes down so many times like he has done a season ending injury and then comes back.
I think Garnett/Pierce might be my most hated players right now haha