Select Optimum 2021

I love collecting AA sets, I think if theyre going to have such a low print run there should be a two version of the AA cards numbered and non numbered prints.

Anyone know the break down expectations per box?
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Me: ahh, finally saved enough cash and so looking forward to my first case!:kick:
...
Select: “No cases will be available.”

Me: r u kidding me...that’s it, I’m out, well played Select =D>
also Me: time to invest in crypto (and back to coins and stamps)

Just quietly me: really wanted a case card too:cry:
 
EDIT - context is all australian insert conversation*

I'm always conflicted on these. I want the chase - the high end value inserts... glory in getting is just hugely rewarding - but it also fails alot as I rarely get them, and shuts out alot of the market that needs to be catered for - kids, families and just general team collectors. If we lose the latter then the former doesnt even happen.
 
EDIT - context is all australian insert conversation*

I'm always conflicted on these. I want the chase - the high end value inserts... glory in getting is just hugely rewarding - but it also fails alot as I rarely get them, and shuts out alot of the market that needs to be catered for - kids, families and just general team collectors. If we lose the latter then the former doesnt even happen.

yep i agree, this is really the only genuine fault I have this series

people have collected the all australian cards since 1995 and now they become unattaiable

if they replaced every non-insert pack in the production run here with a base all australian insert (so ration approx 1:4) they would be limited to 1641 each which makes them able to be collected by everyone to continue sets

then you have the limited AA like they have as the extra hit
 
Minor complaint but disappointed no Jeremy Cameron, Isaac Smith & Shaun Higgins Geelong base cards seeing none were in Footy Stars & Prestige for obvious reasons.
 
Minor complaint but disappointed no Jeremy Cameron, Isaac Smith & Shaun Higgins Geelong base cards seeing none were in Footy Stars & Prestige for obvious reasons.
Yeah, I've noticed no Saad or Williams for Carlton either. I'm assuming they take their own images? Maybe lockdown has made it difficult to get to games for them?
 
I’ll be very surprised if they sell for that much…atleast as a Richmond collector I hope they dont!
Surely not

What AFL cards actually command $1000+??

63s in perfect condition
01 Captain sigs
Supremacy Brownlow / Premiership sigs (/25)
Dusty low numbers
Some HOF sigs (player / club dependant)
Winning brownlow redemptions

The dual sigs look nice. But not sure they will be commanding $1200+ unless it is a jumper number or 01
 
Surely not
What AFL cards actually command $1000+??

63s in perfect condition
01 Captain sigs
Supremacy Brownlow / Premiership sigs (/25)
Dusty low numbers
Some HOF sigs (player / club dependant)
Winning brownlow redemptions

The dual sigs look nice. But not sure they will be commanding $1200+ unless it is a jumper number or 01

I think you will all be very surprised.
 
I think you will all be very surprised.
You think a cats card is going to command over $1200 mate? Im going off Showstoppers and Brilliance cards which are numbered similar...

I'll be surprised if any other than Richmond get to this level.

Not saying its not worth that but there simply isnt 50 collectors/people who will spend that on a card for most teams.
 
You think a cats card is going to command over $1200 mate? Im going off Showstoppers and Brilliance cards which are numbered similar...

I'll be surprised if any other than Richmond get to this level.

Not saying its not worth that but there simply isnt 50 collectors/people who will spend that on a card for most teams.

but they arent signed

not easy to track down a Lord dual signature from Brilliance, last one was on ebay for $900

so I would think that these cards might be similar to that, but it is hard to work out pricing on cards
 
but they arent signed

not easy to track down a Lord dual signature from Brilliance, last one was on ebay for $900

so I would think that these cards might be similar to that, but it is hard to work out pricing on cards
Yep I get what you’re saying that signed cards should be more valuable but there will still be 50 of them…

there were heaps of Lord cards around after Brilliance was released.

Im not talking prices or the series down at all…as a Richmond collector you don’t get a high end card for under $1k these days, just interested to see where it lands.
 
Few of my quick thoughts. I don't mind paying more if value is there, so at $315 per box I think that meets the market and is good value. No dud boxes I believe, a case hit or extra DPS. I do love Influentials but as we saw them last year I would have liked another round of Footy's Finest. Happy to have medal cards numbers finally, but extremely short print runs of /50 and /65 for an All Aust card is a bit too short I think. Personally I liked a set of AA's in with my base set, not anymore. So I have to adjust how I previously collected these. Maybe Medals at /120 and AA's at /240 would have been better. Love the look of the Headliners, cant wait to try and track down a Worpel one of these. Probably too many draft pick sigs, so for example I collect Hawks so that's 9 sigs in total. Love the concept of the dual sigs with past and present players who share the same jumper number, gonna be some massive cards in there. Reiwoldt/King, Mitchell/Worpel and Naitanui/Cousins just to name a few, all mega massive cards. Love the finish Select have gone with, very glossy. And no damage issues with those protective peel covers.
So please don't have a go at my opinions, I know not everyone will agree and that's totally fine. One thing is for sure, no one can complain this set isn't loaded with numbered hits.
Here is the Hawthorn Checklist... 12 DPS cards.. bit much... let me know if I missed any.
Hawthorn CardsOptimum 2021
Commons110 HAWTHORN LOGO
111 L. BREUST
112 S. BURGOYNE
113 J. CEGLAR
114 W. DAY
115 S. FROST
116 O. HANRAHAN
117 B. HARDWICK
118 M. LEWIS
119 H. MORRISON
120 T. O’BRIEN
121 J. SCRIMSHAW
Optimum+OP83 HAWTHORN LOGO
OP84 J. GUNSTON
OP85 B. McEVOY
OP86 T. MITCHELL
OP87 J. O’MEARA
OP88 L. SHIELS
OP89 J. SICILY
OP90 C. WINGARD
OP91 J. WORPEL
OP169 D. GRAINGER- BARRAS (RC)
OP192 S. MITCHELL (RC)
OP198 C. DOWNIE (RC)
OP209 T. BROCKMAN (RC)
Optimum+ ParallelOPP83 HAWTHORN LOGO
OPP84 J. GUNSTON
OPP85 B. McEVOY
OPP86 T. MITCHELL
OPP87 J. O’MEARA
OPP88 L. SHIELS
OPP89 J. SICILY
OPP90 C. WINGARD
OPP91 J. WORPEL
OPP169 D. GRAINGER- BARRAS (RC)
OPP192 S. MITCHELL (RC)
OPP198 C. DOWNIE (RC)
OPP209 T. BROCKMAN (RC)
2020 DRAFT PICK SIGNATURES COPPERDPSC6 D. GRAINGER- BARRAS
DPSC29 S. MITCHELL
DPSC35 C. DOWNIE
DPSC46 T. BROCKMAN
2020 DRAFT PICK SIGNATURES GOLDDPSG6 D. GRAINGER- BARRAS
DPSG29 S. MITCHELL
DPSG35 C. DOWNIE
DPSG46 T. BROCKMAN
2020 DRAFT PICK SIGNATURES PLATINUMDPSP6 D. GRAINGER- BARRAS
DPSP29 S. MITCHELL
DPSP35 C. DOWNIE
DPSP46 T. BROCKMAN
HEADLINERSH46 W. DAY
H47 J. GUNSTON
H48 T. MITCHELL
H49 J. O’MEARA
H50 J. WORPEL
SPECIALISTSS55 J. WORPEL
S56 C. WINGARD
S57 L. BRUEST
S58 J. SICILY
S59 B. McEVOY
S60 S. FROST
OPTIMUM MIRROROM19 S. MITCHELL
OM20 J. WORPEL
OPTIMUM MIRROR DUAL SIGNATURE REDEMPTIONOMDSR10 S. MITCHELL J. WORPEL
OPTIMUM MIRROR DUAL SIGNATUREOMDS10 S. MITCHELL J. WORPEL
INFLUENTIALIC10 J. O’MEARA
 
Here is the Hawthorn Checklist... 12 DPS cards.. bit much... let me know if I missed any.
Hawthorn CardsOptimum 2021
Commons110 HAWTHORN LOGO
111 L. BREUST
112 S. BURGOYNE
113 J. CEGLAR
114 W. DAY
115 S. FROST
116 O. HANRAHAN
117 B. HARDWICK
118 M. LEWIS
119 H. MORRISON
120 T. O’BRIEN
121 J. SCRIMSHAW
Optimum+OP83 HAWTHORN LOGO
OP84 J. GUNSTON
OP85 B. McEVOY
OP86 T. MITCHELL
OP87 J. O’MEARA
OP88 L. SHIELS
OP89 J. SICILY
OP90 C. WINGARD
OP91 J. WORPEL
OP169 D. GRAINGER- BARRAS (RC)
OP192 S. MITCHELL (RC)
OP198 C. DOWNIE (RC)
OP209 T. BROCKMAN (RC)
Optimum+ ParallelOPP83 HAWTHORN LOGO
OPP84 J. GUNSTON
OPP85 B. McEVOY
OPP86 T. MITCHELL
OPP87 J. O’MEARA
OPP88 L. SHIELS
OPP89 J. SICILY
OPP90 C. WINGARD
OPP91 J. WORPEL
OPP169 D. GRAINGER- BARRAS (RC)
OPP192 S. MITCHELL (RC)
OPP198 C. DOWNIE (RC)
OPP209 T. BROCKMAN (RC)
2020 DRAFT PICK SIGNATURES COPPERDPSC6 D. GRAINGER- BARRAS
DPSC29 S. MITCHELL
DPSC35 C. DOWNIE
DPSC46 T. BROCKMAN
2020 DRAFT PICK SIGNATURES GOLDDPSG6 D. GRAINGER- BARRAS
DPSG29 S. MITCHELL
DPSG35 C. DOWNIE
DPSG46 T. BROCKMAN
2020 DRAFT PICK SIGNATURES PLATINUMDPSP6 D. GRAINGER- BARRAS
DPSP29 S. MITCHELL
DPSP35 C. DOWNIE
DPSP46 T. BROCKMAN
HEADLINERSH46 W. DAY
H47 J. GUNSTON
H48 T. MITCHELL
H49 J. O’MEARA
H50 J. WORPEL
SPECIALISTSS55 J. WORPEL
S56 C. WINGARD
S57 L. BRUEST
S58 J. SICILY
S59 B. McEVOY
S60 S. FROST
OPTIMUM MIRROROM19 S. MITCHELL
OM20 J. WORPEL
OPTIMUM MIRROR DUAL SIGNATURE REDEMPTIONOMDSR10 S. MITCHELL J. WORPEL
OPTIMUM MIRROR DUAL SIGNATUREOMDS10 S. MITCHELL J. WORPEL
INFLUENTIALIC10 J. O’MEARA

Great job. I actually forgot about Mitchell being in the draft pick sigs, here I was thinking I had 9 to collect, now it's 12. Way too many. Should have been 2 variations of draft sigs and replace one with something else maybe. I think I'll not be going for all 12, maybe just the 4 copper ones.
 
Disappointing release for team collectors.
Common cards featuring a bunch of players who have barely played this year, whilst recent recruits and last year's debutants are nowhere to be seen.
Optimum cards featuring the same group of players who have had multiple low level cards in Footy Stars and Prestige.
Draft pick signatures to pick 59 is ridiculous, and then to have three versions is massive overkill.
Really disappointed there are no certified signatures this year - that was a great concept, and the dual signature is too much for my budget.
Headliners & Specialists look okay, but there are some odds names on the list.
And worst of all, making All Australian cards a limited, numbered card, makes something that has been part of Select releases for decades, now a difficult task to complete.

I'm sure flippers will be delirious, but Select risks alienating lower level collectors with these releases. I have been collecting Melbourne cards since the 1980s, but have really struggled to make any progress on series 2 releases in recent years.
 
Surely not

What AFL cards actually command $1000+??

63s in perfect condition
01 Captain sigs
Supremacy Brownlow / Premiership sigs (/25)
Dusty low numbers
Some HOF sigs (player / club dependant)
Winning brownlow redemptions

The dual sigs look nice. But not sure they will be commanding $1200+ unless it is a jumper number or 01
Just did a quick eBay search for items sold in last 90 days.

Cards that sold for over $1k include:

Ablett Next Gen signature
Dusty Marquee
Coniglio Supremacy booklet
Judd captain signature
Cripps captain signature
Madden bros Brilliance signature
2006 Supreme Ablett signature
Burgoyne bros Brilliance signature
Bruce Doull case card signature
John Nicholls case card signature
Dusty Prestige green parallel
1996 Jack Dyer signature
Jy Simpkin Supremacy Future Franchise signature
Pavlich captain signature
Wanganeen Brilliance

and then a bunch of sales for $900-100 including:

Grundy Marquee
Lord bros Brilliance signature
Jim Jess Supremacy signature
Dusty jumper number Platinum BP
Fyfe redeemed Brownlow Predictor

So a pretty diverse list all up... I'd be very surprised if the top tier Optimum dual signatures don't sell for similar prices. As a Geelong fan our dual sig is definitely one of the best, with a Norm Smith and a Brownlow winner represented. On paper the Collingwood, Richmond, WCE ones look just as good in terms of genuine club greats and current stars.
 
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