Payment of duty and taxes for dacardworld orders
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yeah dacardworld have been cool me last order over 1000 showed only 500 in the invoice must be a crack down is suggest anyone working in customs look in to the mib gizmo and forget you saw this thread haha
the problem now also is dhl have lifted their prices so high i am going to start only buy singles from ebay after my last package arrives hopefully here tomorrows for only a order of 5 boxes dhl wants $120.00 US
yep thats correct had to go with ups which was still a rip of in my eyes about $70.00 US and they are not as fast as dhl i have experienced boxes are in ascot vale for like 2 days they wont even let me pick up
sorry for my rant
i hope you get the biggest mojo bro:v:
and the quickest delivery from customs as possible
as for dhl
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the problem now also is dhl have lifted their prices so high i am going to start only buy singles from ebay after my last package arrives hopefully here tomorrows for only a order of 5 boxes dhl wants $120.00 US
yep thats correct had to go with ups which was still a rip of in my eyes about $70.00 US and they are not as fast as dhl i have experienced boxes are in ascot vale for like 2 days they wont even let me pick upsorry for my rant
i hope you get the biggest mojo bro:v:
and the quickest delivery from customs as possible
as for dhl
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yeah dacardworld have been cool me last order over 1000 showed only 500 in the invoice must be a crack down is suggest anyone working in customs look in to the mib gizmo and forget you saw this thread haha
the problem now also is dhl have lifted their prices so high i am going to start only buy singles from ebay after my last package arrives hopefully here tomorrows for only a order of 5 boxes dhl wants $120.00 US
sorry for my rant
i hope you get the biggest mojo bro:v:
and the quickest delivery from customs as possible
as for dhl
I love DHL. They are quick and with no delays. With UPS I had a couple of cases sent through them. What happens is if you pay for one level of service they (eg delivery by 10 days), they will deliver it on the last day, even if it is there earlier. It is because "you haven't paid for the quicker service so you shouldn't get your package quicker". That's what the guy at UPS told me. I was told over the phone that I couldn't pick up earlier but I went in there anyway. The guy there was good and went and found my package for me, 2 days before it was due to deliver.
Ersk
yeah i loved dhl also just their prices have doubled
i see what you mean about ups i wonder what it u.p.s really stands for
my days off are mon tues cause i work the weekends i rang up and they say cannot be picked up or dlvd until wednesday package been here from sunday but i might try what you did if package hasnt been moved by themorning
wowi i did not know that ups had a quicker service thought it should be one payment of one service like dhl standards.with dhl package would have been ready for pick up by lunch time today ready for delivery tomorrow between 1-3 pm.
live box breaks by 3-5 pm lolz
yeah i loved dhl also just their prices have doubled
i see what you mean about ups i wonder what it u.p.s really stands for
my days off are mon tues cause i work the weekends i rang up and they say cannot be picked up or dlvd until wednesday package been here from sunday but i might try what you did if package hasnt been moved by themorning
with dhl package would have been ready for pick up by lunch time today ready for delivery tomorrow between 1-3 pm.
live box breaks by 3-5 pm lolz
United Parcel Service.
They have levels of service from extrememly quick - roughly 3 working days to I think standard deilvery times about 2 weeks. They make it sound quick like "Expedited" but I think that is 7-10 day service.
And to clarify something for all of you, there is NOTHING on the books at customs about trading cards. I had this same problem and the customs agent and us, my wife and I, sat down and went through that book, of about 1000 pages looking for a catagory that the cards would fall into. We found NOTHING. Realistically, you can get them through for nothing IF they are not packaged in the original boxes or packs. Photos coming into the country are not taxable. Just because there is writing on the back does not make it anything other then a photo. Any promotional material can not be taxed. It must be LABELED clearly as promotional material. This is non taxable stuff, so when the board gets donations from card companies or from other sources, this should be labeled as PROMOTIONAL so there is no tax.
But where it gets tricky is the game used and autos. The autographs themselves have a listing, I believe its 10% tax if over $1000.00 in value. If your a hockey or baseball collector, the wood GU is not even to be let in. The exquisite boxes you all broke last year would be bounced also as those wood boxes are a no no.
I would suggest the following. Keep all boxes you buy from DandA or where ever under a legit $800 USD. This way you have room for error. DO NOT fudge your customs cert. or the fine for doing so will be a lot more then what the tax would be and you will be then red flagged for 7 years on all parcels coming into the country. If your going to buy $1500.00 worth of stuff, then have them send it in two shipments with two different invoices. It might cost an extra $40.00, but its a lot less then the $340.00.
Also, watch the dollar against the US dollar as when you buy, they use the USD and then convert to AUD. Being the dollar is doing well right now, you don't lose out too much, but when the dollar drops to .65 cents, a 650.00 purchase USD is worth 1000.00 AUD and you will pay tax.
One other thing I have learned is with EBAY. Lets say you bid on a huge lot of eBay or some very expensive item on eBay. If the customs agent warrants, he can hold your item until someone can give a true value of your product no matter what you paid for it. For example... Jordan Rookie Card.
Raw the book value is $700.00 or so. If its graded, the worth goes up big time. Lets say you get a raw rookie, and the customs agent you just gave lip too decides he is going to make your life miserable, he can then have the government send it to a company like PSA or Becketts to get this graded, which you will pay for 10 fold, then they will have someone assess the actual net worth, then you will pay the tax on that card, processing fees, grading fees and any other fee they decide to give you.
The customs agent was very cool about this, as he was someone that did it for a long period of time and was also a collector in the 80's. He never knew that there wasn't code for trading cards. And unless they changed the code, which can happen, card collectors are in a no mans land. I think he gave me the time as he was on my side as a collector, but he had to follow the law as per his job.
BTW, I did pay the tax as customs says if there is no code, you pay a tax at the HIGHEST rate. Seems a bit harsh, but its what happened. I hope this experience and knowledge helps you all out.
But where it gets tricky is the game used and autos. The autographs themselves have a listing, I believe its 10% tax if over $1000.00 in value. If your a hockey or baseball collector, the wood GU is not even to be let in. The exquisite boxes you all broke last year would be bounced also as those wood boxes are a no no.
I would suggest the following. Keep all boxes you buy from DandA or where ever under a legit $800 USD. This way you have room for error. DO NOT fudge your customs cert. or the fine for doing so will be a lot more then what the tax would be and you will be then red flagged for 7 years on all parcels coming into the country. If your going to buy $1500.00 worth of stuff, then have them send it in two shipments with two different invoices. It might cost an extra $40.00, but its a lot less then the $340.00.
Also, watch the dollar against the US dollar as when you buy, they use the USD and then convert to AUD. Being the dollar is doing well right now, you don't lose out too much, but when the dollar drops to .65 cents, a 650.00 purchase USD is worth 1000.00 AUD and you will pay tax.
One other thing I have learned is with EBAY. Lets say you bid on a huge lot of eBay or some very expensive item on eBay. If the customs agent warrants, he can hold your item until someone can give a true value of your product no matter what you paid for it. For example... Jordan Rookie Card.
Raw the book value is $700.00 or so. If its graded, the worth goes up big time. Lets say you get a raw rookie, and the customs agent you just gave lip too decides he is going to make your life miserable, he can then have the government send it to a company like PSA or Becketts to get this graded, which you will pay for 10 fold, then they will have someone assess the actual net worth, then you will pay the tax on that card, processing fees, grading fees and any other fee they decide to give you.
The customs agent was very cool about this, as he was someone that did it for a long period of time and was also a collector in the 80's. He never knew that there wasn't code for trading cards. And unless they changed the code, which can happen, card collectors are in a no mans land. I think he gave me the time as he was on my side as a collector, but he had to follow the law as per his job.
BTW, I did pay the tax as customs says if there is no code, you pay a tax at the HIGHEST rate. Seems a bit harsh, but its what happened. I hope this experience and knowledge helps you all out.
A_Iverson_I
OzCardTrader
That won't work..... I read on the customs website awhile back that any packages coming into the country under your name in a certain time period (which they did not say), their values will be added together.
That is correct. If they decide to catch parcels going to you then they will record the value and sum up the total of value shipped to you over a "period of time", which I think is probably somewhere between 1-3 weeks.
One thing you should do is make sure that the sender does not put $0 as the value. That will catch the eye of customs, then even worse, they will hold your item and then request evidence of how muc you paid for your item of the value of the item.
I do not know why you people are all complaining, but back 5-10 years ago the customs waiver value was only $400! Imagine that. And that was when the AU$ was only worth US$0.60.......so that is only US$240.
At least now you have up to US$850-900 before being picked up. That's almost 4 times more now compared to back then.
Ersk
There are ways around this also.
If you have a PO box, have it sent to it. Have the other package sent to work, have them address it to different names and you have no issues.
Also for work, if you have packages sent to them, it not looked at as closely as a company I worked for had TONS of stuff that came in from Canada and the States and they never had issues.
Just another thought
Mooernator
OzCardTrader
This might be a little off topic but I have to ask. I'm a collector who's currently studying in Melbourne and most of my collection is back in my home country. I was planning on bringing it to Melbourne the next time I go back home. Would I have to pay any customs duty/tax or anything of the like?
If you are moving and it is a personal item, then you will not have to pay customs duty on it. It must not be new items etc. You would also need to bring other things with you to show you ar moving here. not just pack your cases full of cards when flying in.
Ersk
Mooernator
OzCardTrader
What I meant was that I'm already studying here. Have been for several years. Just that I haven't thought of bringing my collection with me to Melb before but thanks anyways for the help. Much appreciated.