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Please ensure that before you post or agree to a trade on OzCardTrader that you read the site rules pertaining to Buying, Selling & Trading on this website.

OzCardTrader.com.au - FAQ/Site Rules: OzCardTrader Rules & FAQ

BUYING/SELLING/TRADING RULES

Selling and trading:

Trading and selling/buying is permitted on OzCardTrader.com.au. The site and its administrators accept no financial responsibilities/liabilities with respect to these transactions. OzCardTrader.com.au may be considered as only a venue where these deals can take place. If there are any problems with transactions you are a part of, please contact one of the Admin or moderators for help, and they will do what they can to make sure the deal does go through.

a) Members with less than 10 feedback on OzCardTrader MUST SEND FIRST unless the person can provide references from other trading websites and/or eBay with trading card history to the satisfaction of the member they are trading with.
b) All trades or sales must be posted in the Submit Sale & Trade Agreements forum and a response left by the other party agreeing to the deal. Cards/payment should not be sent until BOTH parties have agreed to the deal.
c) Deals are deals: once a deal is posted and both parties have posted that its going through members are to hold up their end of the deal. Changing your mind or altering the deal once this has happened is not acceptable and members that do this will be suspended or have their trading privileges removed.
d) Cards/payment must be sent within 2 business days of deal agreement being reached (unless an alternative arrangement has been met and agreed to by both parties in the Submit Trade/Deal Agreement thread.
e) Prices displayed on OzCardTrader.com.au should be taken as Australian dollar (AUD) amounts, unless otherwise (and clearly) stated. Furthermore, purchase prices shown should be considered separate from any shipping charges, unless otherwise stated. Please confirm total costs before agreeing to a deal in the Submit Sale & Trade Agreements section.
f) Selling or trading card(s) or boxes that you don't have in hand is not allowed. You must have the card(s)/boxes in hand before they can be included in a deal.
g) Group breaks, Group box buys or case shares (or any other name you can think of) can ONLY be approved by Admin. No members are allowed to organise group buys unless given permission by graham and/or chadjaja.
h) Raffles or games of chance are not permitted on OzCardTrader unless the proper permits or licenses have been organised and proof supplied to Admin.

Packaging:

Absolutely no sending in white envelopes under any circumstances. The minimum amount of protection when sending all cards is as follows:

a) Each card to be in a penny sleeve, always.
b) Cards are to be placed in appropriately thick top loaders, secured by tape at the top.
c) Cards to be sent in a bubble mailer.

In the event of sending a large number of cards, where individually placing each card in a top loader is not practical, the cards should be well protected between cardboard/top loaders and posted in a box or bubble mailer.

Postage methods that are NOT approved :
a) Cards in a white envelope, regardless of individual card protection - sending in white envelopes is not to happen and will result in a negative being left for you.
b) Cards sent in a penny sleeves without any other protection.
c) Careless packing methods, such as sending cards in top loaders without tape/team bag to prevent the card slipping out and being damaged.
d) Cards shipped in snap-tight cases with rounded corners.
e) Any other way you can think of that will cause a card to be damaged.

Other sites do not have rules for these sorts of things, and we have seen far too many cards damaged from poor packing. The white envelopes in particular are a no no - we have it from an Aussie Post employee that these white envelopes go through an automated sorting machine, which explains some of the damage we have seen to cards/top loaders sent in plain envelopes. Bubble mailers do not go through this process, so the chances of damage are far less likely.

If you need assistance with advice or supplies to package cards correctly, please create a post in our Site Suggestions/Site Help forum and someone will be along to assist.

Negative feedback can and will be left for members who do not follow these rules REGARDLESS of whether the cards were damaged or not.
 

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There are only two status that get used the most to simplify the process - "In Progress" and "Completed". There is another called "Cancelled" and this is used mostly when someone doesn't reply to a deal thread or the parties cannot agree on a deal.

A deal is "In Progress" and agreed to when both parties post in the trade thread agreeing to the deal. There is no "Agreed" status.

A deal is moved to "Completed" normally when both parties receive their items and feedback has been left.

Hope this helps.
 

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what happens if both parties have feedback under 10, who sends first??
To be honest, i'd recommend that 2 users with low or no feedback do not trade with each other. Instead I recommend that you trade with members that do have feedback, until you can get their feedback high enough. Unfortunately there is little or no protection trading with a no or low feedback member, especially if they cannot provide feedback from other sites (eBay etc).

That being said, it is entirely your choice if you have under 10 feedback and you wish to trade with someone else under 10 feedback. The logical solution is that both send at the same time, however you would be taking a risk.
 

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At what number of cards should you not send in individual top loaders?
How long is a piece of string?

As it states in the rules, "when it is not practical". If you are dealing with 50 base cards, it is certainly impractical to send all of these in top loaders. If you are dealing with 10 high end cards, then it is definitely practical and a must to send in at least top loaders.

Your best course is to discuss posting options with whoever you are trading (or buying/selling) with. If it is a number of cards where it seems like it is impractical to either party to send all the cards in top loaders, then you need to agree on how the cards are sent. What matters is that the cards get from A to B in the best possible condition, with the least risk of damage in transit. This is why there are packaging rules to be followed.
 

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I know it might be stupid question.

But how do you change the staus from pending to completed? I cant seem to figure it out
To move a deal from In Progress to Completed, click on edit, then go advanced. On the next page you should be able to modify the prefix of In Progress to Completed on your agreement thread. This will need to be done by the person who creates the trade thread.
 

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OK so I stupidly tried to be a nice guy and paid before I received a package from a member with low feedback who said they'd posted the packages, and it looks like I've been burned to the tune of $360.

My fault, but has anyone else been this stupid and had this happen? If so I'd love to know the circumstances, and whether or not you got the police involved.

Will go sit on the naughty / stupid step for the rest of the evening now. :(
 

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What happens in the case were two reputable members do a deal and payment is made and other party informs cards posted but they don't arrive, do you have any recommendations on solving this problem without argument etc?

Dave P
 

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just wondering if there are standards for posting tazo's?
a tazo is more rigid than your average top loader, and comes in its own packet, so would it be suitable to send them out just in a bubble mailer?
cheers.
 

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Hi, bearing all of this in mind, can you please leave feedback for new users you trade with so they can accumulate a feedback score. I've traded with several people since joining this site a few weeks ago and only one or two have left feedback. It makes it tough! I'll be sending first for a very long time at this rate.
 
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