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In my view it did work. Just because one buyer broke rules doesn't mean it wasn't a success.

You're missing the point that all stock was on offer to purchase. No favouritism to this breaker, retailer etc.
I get what your saying but retailers have more of an idea of who the collectors are than select ever will, we used to see case shares everywhere from this site to Facebook groups and always under RRP But the people who run them like myself have been cut back so much it’s not possible anymore and the reason we have been cut back is because select wanted to sell more through website, I haven’t done a case share for 2 years now, if I could get more stock I would do it again but not possible at the moment the way it’s changed
 

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What’s wrong with that they are a business, I also run a business and didn’t sell any boxes I opened everything I had, make more money selling singles than selling boxes at RRP And some businesses have orders for master sets to complete, and everyone has been cut back because select wanted to sell more through there website, it’s proven selling more through there website doesn’t work and I’m glad select are handing back control to the wholesale side
Side track, but curious about retailers who take orders for master sets. Have you come across anyone who does this for team sets on a particular release?

Never really had a positive experience with a retailer. But would save a lot of f**king around on Ebay if there was someone reputable and ethical who did this

Don't get me wrong, I love the chase. But other priorities mean I don't always have the time. Especially with 3, or 4 or even 5 releases a year. When it was 2, that was fine. But the way Select is operating now, something like this is almost becoming a necessity for team collectors
 

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Side track, but curious about retailers who take orders for master sets. Have you come across anyone who does this for team sets on a particular release?

Never really had a positive experience with a retailer. But would save a lot of f**king around on Ebay if there was someone reputable and ethical who did this

Don't get me wrong, I love the chase. But other priorities mean I don't always have the time. Especially with 3, or 4 or even 5 releases a year. When it was 2, that was fine. But the way Select is operating now, something like this is almost becoming a necessity for team collectors
I haven’t personally but I know of a couple of retailers that make a master set for a buyer it’s getting near on impossible to do now though, but there would be buyers that would chase a team master set and like to just buy the lot from 1 person
 

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I haven’t personally but I know of a couple of retailers that make a master set for a buyer it’s getting near on impossible to do now though, but there would be buyers that would chase a team master set and like to just buy the lot from 1 person
Cheers mate. Can you PM me the details of anyone you know who might be interested in doing this?

Or if anyone is reading this and knows anyone who could facilitate this, feel free to hit me up
 

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Still seeing breakers list Prestige box breaks with large volume. Makes you wonder how so much of it got in their hands especially given the way it was sold.
Pretty easy you get your mum, dad, uncle, Aunty, friends, and the neighbours dog to buy boxes if you have enough helpers you could get heaps
 

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Does anyone keep a close eye on the breakers? I'm not really in any dedicated break groups.

Who are the main break groups?

What percentage of overall release ends up in breaks?

Do breakers who buy at wholesale break at RRP or mix most of their cheap stock with purchases from the secondary market and charge a lot more?
 

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It's a sh1t show.

There were allegations of authorised retailers securing stock at wholesale and online level. Not just doubling but tripling up.

There is no transparency this way with all the back door shenanigans happening.

Put it all on online, even out the playing field and let everyone fight it out. Currently as it stands, everyone has a best mate with with this bloke and knows another etc.
 
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I heard one or two may have been securing stock from Select directly and also at wholesale. The system is a mess.

I was told that Select only used JHL as their wholesale distributor but it appears they have been selling behind the scenes to individuals/businesses for years. Why did they feel the need to advertise who their "authorised retailers" were? Just because they're not authorised any more, is it naive to think they won't continue supplying their favourites behind the scenes?

What happens to the ex authorised retailers who don't have an account with JHL? It will be interesting to see the allocation numbers for series 2.

I've always purchased from the card shop, not at wholesale. I was around for a few years before there was a lot of money to be made. It's disappointing to keep getting cut back, particularly when relative newcomers appear to be gifted large amounts of stock from Select.

Master sets have become too expensive when purchasing mainly on the secondary market. It's disappointing when long term card shops can only get a similar allocation to non bricks and mortar resellers who are lucky enough to have wholesale accounts without the overheads. I'd like to see priority allocations to long standing shops, followed by long standing resellers and finally new entrants who arrived for the money. That is if the wholesale model continues.

The online only needs safeguards to stop tech wizards with bots and multiple contacts scooping up large amounts of stock. I don't think it's a level playing field, some will benefit, others miss out and the trader network will break up to a degree.

Finally the distribution needs sorting out. No one should be selling before release day. All states should have a chance of having stock on release day and express post should be an option.
 
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I heard one or two may have been securing stock from Select directly and also at wholesale. The system is a mess.

I was told that Select only used JHL as their wholesale distributor but it appears they have been selling behind the scenes to individuals/businesses for years. Why did they feel the need to advertise who their "authorised retailers" were? Just because they're not authorised any more, is it naive to think they won't continue supplying their favourites behind the scenes?

What happens to the ex authorised retailers who don't have an account with JHL? It will be interesting to see the allocation numbers for series 2.

I've always purchased from the card shop, not at wholesale. I was around for a few years before there was a lot of money to be made. It's disappointing to keep getting cut back, particularly when relative newcomers appear to be gifted large amounts of stock from Select.

Master sets have become too expensive when purchasing mainly on the secondary market. It's disappointing when long term card shops can only get a similar allocation to non bricks and mortar resellers who are lucky enough to have wholesale accounts without the overheads. I'd like to see priority allocations to long standing shops, followed by long standing resellers and finally new entrants who arrived for the money. That is if the wholesale model continues.

The online only needs safeguards to stop tech wizards with bots and multiple contacts scooping up large amounts of stock. I don't think it's a level playing field, some will benefit, others miss out and the trader network will break up to a degree.

Finally the distribution needs sorting out. No one should be selling before release day. All states should have a chance of having stock on release day and express post should be an option.
100% agree with long term brick n' mortar card stores should be looked after first, before online new comers.
if we lose the card stores... we have lost the spiritual "community" heart beat of the hobby
 

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I like bricks and mortar shops too ,but when you work 7 days a week like I do online is just easier . I have said before if you want a physical store you need to have online too, very difficult to survive otherwise. I just purchased a few different items from current sellers Dave and jazzy and Ja ja s , to not just help these businesses but to check out their service. Both were excellent and I will be supporting them more. The other thing card shop s need to do is diversify into other collectables which many do. Not sure if any do it but if I had a shop either online or bricks and mortar I would maybe have different membership s ,and have exclusive zoom content. I remember talking about this with Select yrs ago too.And something else that is imperative for card shops and the like you must update your online presence daily and shop front at least weekly. People have short attention spans . If they know there will be new content on the site or in your window all the time they will visit more and that leads to more sales imo. It certainly works as I have done this with great success.
 
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I heard one or two may have been securing stock from Select directly and also at wholesale. The system is a mess.

I was told that Select only used JHL as their wholesale distributor but it appears they have been selling behind the scenes to individuals/businesses for years. Why did they feel the need to advertise who their "authorised retailers" were? Just because they're not authorised any more, is it naive to think they won't continue supplying their favourites behind the scenes?

What happens to the ex authorised retailers who don't have an account with JHL? It will be interesting to see the allocation numbers for series 2.

I've always purchased from the card shop, not at wholesale. I was around for a few years before there was a lot of money to be made. It's disappointing to keep getting cut back, particularly when relative newcomers appear to be gifted large amounts of stock from Select.

Master sets have become too expensive when purchasing mainly on the secondary market. It's disappointing when long term card shops can only get a similar allocation to non bricks and mortar resellers who are lucky enough to have wholesale accounts without the overheads. I'd like to see priority allocations to long standing shops, followed by long standing resellers and finally new entrants who arrived for the money. That is if the wholesale model continues.

The online only needs safeguards to stop tech wizards with bots and multiple contacts scooping up large amounts of stock. I don't think it's a level playing field, some will benefit, others miss out and the trader network will break up to a degree.

Finally the distribution needs sorting out. No one should be selling before release day. All states should have a chance of having stock on release day and express post should be an option.
Couldn’t agree more, shop fronts should get priority followed by online sellers who have been around for years, new comers should have to wait it took me years to get a wholesale account had to build a reputation and relationships, just because you might have just started a business shouldn’t gaurantee anything you need to build your reputation IMO
 
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Ive been looking for a Jack Steele Marquee from this series
What do you guys think? Still some yet to be found from the boxes?
No one seems to have one
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Not the case mate. If you’re in most of the groups on fb you’ll know a Jack Steele lover so every possibility he has a few