Fraud Warning - Tap N Play's Play of the Week Cricket Card Release

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Good morning everybody and happy Australia Day to you all.

After a great day yesterday on the post with the Competition to win a box of cards it is today a sad day for cricket card collectors. I have uncovered some fraudulent activity that my affect anybody else who has purchased the Tap N Play, BBL & WBBL Play of the Week Cricket Card set.

I have card set numbered 9 and I am aware that a couple of other members on here have numbers 8 and 7. It is regrettable that I have to advise that there may be more than 1 of the cards numbered 7/16, 8/16 etc. On ebay yesterday I found a listing for the Grace Harris, Week 1, Play of the Week card with photos of card 9/16 on the back. The only thing is I have sitting in front of me the exact same number 9/16.

As I have received my first three cards in the set all numbered 9 I have also attached below my proof. The picture below my 3 cards is the picture of the card that he listed on ebay.

I have contacted Neil at Tap N Play in regards to this matter and I also contacted the seller of the card on ebay who tried to tell me that the card was marked Promotional on the back and that he had somehow removed the word and it revealed the number 9/16. I don't buy this BS for 1 second. Somebody is doing the dirty here and I intend to find out who and why. Sadly Neil hasn't had the courtesy to respond to my messages.

The seller has withdrawn the card from sale on ebay but I do notice that he also has Numbered Patch Cards for Nathan Lyon and Mitchell Starc on there but no Redemptions which I know others have been raising questions about recently.

We all need to come together and stand up against this sort of behaviour and stamp it out before it destroys what is left of the cricket card market. If it continues to happen we will not have a market and we won't have any boxes to bust and cards to get signed.

I don't normally like to name the seller involved but in this case I am left with no option. The seller is listed as justcricket99no

If anybody has any questions about my post please feel free to contact me. My crusade to eliminate fraudulant behaviour in the cricket card market has begun and will continue until people like this are outed from the industry.

How hard is it to be honest with others with the same passion and interest.


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Thanks for the tip. It certainly does raise concerns about legitimacy and how these cards are obtained. Hopefully Neil responds shortly so that we can all make ourselves familiar with fraudsters as to not get burned.
 
Hi All,

Sadly there is a follow up to this matter.

I have e-mailed the seller and asked him to do the decent thing and to destroy the card. I further advised him that I would be contacting the Office of Fair Trading and the Police Fraud Squad.

He has replied that he will not destroy the card and has advised me that if I threaten him again that he will re-list the card.

I will not let this one lie. I will take the matter further if I am left with no options.

I will keep you all posted.

Cheers
Chris
 
Been saying it for years but was always seen as 'negative', I guess his lap dogs will come out in force to defend him!!!

It was only a matter on time all the shifty business was going to catch up with them. They've been selling those cards with no redemption's for years (since their first release) and are finally seeing the light of day. Their distributors should be held accountable as well, as they are aware of these dealings and have kept hush about it. Shame on them for taking advantage of people in such an innocent hobby!!!
 
I would assume that more than 1 of each were printed in case of damage/lost in post etc.

but the extra copy should clearly have been destroyed and not distributed anywhere, even if the number was covered with a promotional badge

since there were only 16 produced it should be relatively easy to account form many of them
 
Understand your frustration, and certainly just another reason to add to my list of reasons to avoid them, but one thing...
Unsure why you think they should destroy something that they have purchased. It's not their fault the manufacturer has made an error. If anything, you should be pushing TnP to purchase it and then destroy it. If you were told to destroy something you spent $30+ on, I'm sure you wouldn't do it.
 
Understand your frustration, and certainly just another reason to add to my list of reasons to avoid them, but one thing...
Unsure why you think they should destroy something that they have purchased. It's not their fault the manufacturer has made an error. If anything, you should be pushing TnP to purchase it and then destroy it. If you were told to destroy something you spent $30+ on, I'm sure you wouldn't do it.

I may have been a bit hasty to ask him to destroy the card. Why should I have to buy the card from him when there is clearly fraudulent activity going on between TNP and him.

What makes it worse is that he was trying to sell it for $40.

I am sure that if you were in my shoes that you would feel the same. I am certain that you wouldn't like your collection tainted by others.

If I was found to be in possession of a card like in this situation I would return it to the manufacturer and ask them for a refund and advise them of what I have been alerted to. I guess the good old honesty system doesn't exist anymore.
 
NEWS UPDATE: Below is a response that I just found on the Cricket Trading Cards Australia Facebook Page. It is extremely disappointing that Neil has not had the courtesy despite requests to do so, to contact me direct in regards to this matter and instead has chosen to notify the Administrator of a Facebook Page of what has happened.

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Paul Richardson This is what I just received in an email from Tap n Play guys:

“As this is a new process to produce limited cards weekly, TapNPlay produced two sets of the first three POTW cards in case there were quality issues. Only one set was sent out but if there was an error with one card being sent twice then we need to investigate.

TapNPlay are not sending out spare or promotional cards and for the 4th POTW set onwards we are only producing a single set as there are no quality issues with the process requiring spares.

Any claims that Tap n Play sent out the card as a “Promo” is fraudulent “
 
The seller responded to my questions about the high end cards he has but all I got was a bit of vile and totally avoided the question I asked which was how come no redemptions I hope no one has the numbers he has and maybe tapnplay should have got on to this a few weeks ago when questions were asked instead of avoiding
And to finish why wouldn’t tapnplay reply on this site as a little bit bigger than the F.B site
I smell a rat and believe you won’t here anything more unless pressure is kept on
We as collectors deserve better we are the ones that spend thousands of dollars on cards and hope that everything is above board
I for one feel very disappointed at this
And in closing I hope a Bradman or Morris patch card doesn’t all of a sudden turn up with no redemption
 
Geez @Pokey what a horrible bloody mess, mate 😳😞

I was just reflecting on the fact that when I joined OzCardTrader it was on the eve of what I still think is by far the best cricket release of the last decade: 2009-10 Select Cricket. I am saddened by the stories and examples shown to me about Tap n Play products and behaviours. I would have loved to have collected a lot of the individual cards of players but I cannot justify a purchase of their products.

In the very early days I was correctly seen as a Tap n Play apologist as I was desperate for them to succeed and reinvigorate the cricket card collecting market.

I just hope that you can get to the bottom of what has happened mate and get a satisfactory outcome.

Yours in collecting
🙂
Matt
 
Hi All,

I have had a response from Neil which is below. All I want is for the matter to be investigated, for my set to regain it's rightful place as a true limited edition set and for there to be transparency, integrity and honesty in the card market.

This issue is killing the card market and those trying to do so should be called out. If I can't do this then we live in a truly sad, sad world.

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Hi Chris

As a small office we had half the staff on leave last week so we’re slower than I would like in responding.
Posting warnings of fraudulent behaviour is s a serious matter and whilst we need to address the matter by getting to the bottom of it, there is a fine line between making claims and defamation.

There has been a response sent to Ozcard to address your concerns (and through Cricket Trading Card collectors FB page)

To answer your query, there is no fraudulent. Behaviour - simply - As this is a new process to produce limited cards weekly, TapNPlay produced two sets of the first three POTW cards in case there were quality issues. Only one set was sent out but if there was an error with one card being sent twice then we need to investigate.
From the 4th POTW set onwards we are only producing a single set as there are no quality issues with the process requiring spares. This eradicates the chance of errors moving forward.
 
I call bullshit on all those replies. that is as lame an excuse as you can come up with and the whole reason we were delayed excuse is amateurish at best.

why have they suddenly decided that they dont need spares now but they did previously? what could possibly have changed and there is every possibility the new cards can get damaged and need a spare as the originals.

I think they have been caught out and backtracking. had a few weeks to get their story straight.

if they were ser ioous they would address their relationship with the seller, the issue with the redemptions and actually make an effort to clear u p the situation rather than drop the defamation scare tactic
 
Pretty sure this is the 3rd time that they have been caught with a card with the same number (who knows how many same numbered cards are out there) and as nice as it would be to call it an amateur error, we all know that it's not!

Funny thing is, I was expecting this response that was given, the old 'human error', we made a mistake. Seriously, I don't buy the whole 'was an error from a staff member'. There are 16 cards, it's not hard to keep track of what has been sent out. Think someone's been revenue raising again.
 
Hi mate it’s good @Tap'N'play Trading Cards is investigating but no mention of the high end cricket cards being sold without redemptions which I think needs to be looked into as well

I think any company selling off redemption autos without redemption cards completely undermines any companies credibility.

I don't know if its the case here, but it does seem odd that some selected re-sellers on eBay are able to get a large number of autos to sell off (without the redemption cards).

If I were to guess (and this is only a guess) the outstanding stock for the old products has either been returned or destroyed (by the end retailer/distributor - in some cases its easier - and some cases cheaper - for them to destroy the product than collect it and return it to the manufacturer) meaning that outside of any unbroken product in someones possession....... there would be a belief that no more redemption cards would be sent in.

I would hope that it wasn't the case that these were sold off or given to someone to sell off as that would pretty much destroy any credibility in a company.
 
Not sure what is going on. Here are all the sales for the match worns with exactly the same numbers (Lyon, Starc and Broad) under a different seller. Starc went from a redemption to no redemption.

https://www.ebay.com.au/sch/theaujo...:0&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc&_trksid=p2046732.m1684
Lots of other inserts as well.

Pretty sure that is TNP eBay account (only based on some of the listings, I could be wrong)........ funny thing is they are undercutting their own distributors with some of those prices :lol:.
 
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Pretty sure that is TNP eBay account........ funny thing is they are undercutting their own distributors with some of those prices :lol:.

This is why none of the big resellers buy up any large volumes of stock any more.

Why buy 50 cases and be undercut in a month or so's time......order 1 or 2 cases and order more if you need it, when you need it.
 
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