2015 All Star Weekend Thread

[GarnettFan4Life]

All Star Game results:


2014 East 163, West 155 Kyrie Irving New Orleans, La.
2013 West 143, East 138 Chris Paul Houston, Texas
2012 West 152, East 149 Kevin Durant Orlando, Fla.
2011 West 148, East 143 Kobe Bryant Los Angeles, Calif.
2010 East 141, West 139 Dwyane Wade Arlington, Texas
2009 West 146, East 119 Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O'Neal Phoenix, Ariz.
2008 East 134, West 128 LeBron James New Orleans, La.
2007 West 153, East 132 Kobe Bryant Las Vegas, Nev.
2006 East 122, West 120 LeBron James Houston, Texas
2005 East 125, West 115 Allen Iverson Denver, Colo.
2004 West 136, East 132 Shaquille O'Neal Los Angeles, Calif.
2003 West 155, East 145 (2OT) Kevin Garnett Atlanta, Ga.
2002 West 135, East 120 Kobe Bryant Philadelphia, Pa.
2001 East 111, West 110 Allen Iverson Washington, D.C.
2000 West 137, East 126 Tim Duncan, Shaquille O'Neal Oakland, Calif.
1998 East 135, West 114 Michael Jordan New York, N.Y.
1997 East 132, West 120 Glen Rice Cleveland, Ohio
1996 East 129, West 118 Michael Jordan San Antonio, Texas
1995 West 139, East 112 Mitch Richmond Phoenix, Ariz.
1994 East 127, West 118 Scottie Pippen Minneapolis, Minn.
1993 West 135, East 132 (OT) Karl Malone, John Stockton Salt Lake City, Utah
1992 West 153, East 113 Magic Johnson Orlando, Fla.
1991 East 116, West 114 Charles Barkley Charlotte, N.C.
1990 East 130, West 113 Magic Johnson Miami, Fla.
1989 West 143, East 134 Karl Malone Houston, Texas
1988 East 138, West 133 Michael Jordan Chicago, Ill.
1987 West 154, East 149 (OT) Tom Chambers Seattle, Wash.
1986 East 139, West 132 Isiah Thomas Dallas, Texas
1985 West 140, East 129 Ralph Sampson Indianapolis, Ind.
1984 East 154, West 145 (OT) Isiah Thomas Denver, Colo.
1983 East 132, West 123 Julius Erving Inglewood, Calif.
1982 East 120, West 118 Larry Bird East Rutherford, N.J.
1981 East 123, West 120 Tiny Archibald Richfield, Ohio
1980 East 144, West 136 (OT) George Gervin Landover, Md.
1979 West 134, East 129 David Thompson Detroit, Mich.
1978 East 133, West 125 Randy Smith Atlanta, Ga.
1977 West 125, East 124 Julius Erving Milwaukee, Wisc.
1976 East 123, West 109 Dave Bing Philadelphia, Pa.
1975 East 108, West 102 Walt Frazier Phoenix, Ariz.
1974 West 134, East 123 Bob Lanier San Antonio, Texas
1973 East 104, West 84 Dave Cowens Chicago, Ill.
1972 West 112, East 110 Jerry West Inglewood, Calif.
1971 West 108, East 107 Lenny Wilkens San Diego, Calif.
1970 East 142, West 135 Willis Reed Philadelphia, Pa.
1969 East 123, West 112 Oscar Robertson Baltimore, Md.
1968 East 144, West 124 Hal Greer New York, N.Y.
1967 West 135, East 120 Rick Barry San Francisco, Calif.
1966 East 137, West 94 Adrian Smith Cincinnati, Ohio
1965 East 124, West 123 Jerry Lucas St. Louis, Mo.
1964 East 111, West 107 Oscar Robertson Boston, Mass.
1963 East 115, West 108 Bill Russell Los Angeles, Calif.
1962 West 150, East 130 Bob Pettit St. Louis, Mo.
1961 West 153, East 131 Oscar Robertson Syracuse, N.Y.
1960 East 125, West 115 Wilt Chamberlain Philadelphia, Pa.
1959 West 124, East 108 Elgin Baylor, Bob Pettit Detroit, Mich.
1958 East 130, West 118 Bob Pettit St. Louis, Mo.
1957 East 109, West 97 Bob Cousy Boston, Mass.
1956 West 108, East 94 Bob Pettit Rochester, N.Y.
1955 East 100, West 91 Bill Sharman New York, N.Y.
1954 East 98, West 93 (OT) Bob Cousy New York, N.Y.
1953 West 79, East 75 George Mikan Ft. Wayne, Ind.
1952 East 108, West 91 Paul Arizin Boston, Mass.
1951 East 111, West 94 Ed Macauley Boston, Mass.

 

[WoobieZarz]

The list of dunkers is strange, IMO. They seem to be more about entertainment & props, than putting on an extravaganza of dunks!

Now I have no idea if players are asked or if they have to submit themselves to compete, but where's the likes of Gerald Green, Andrew Wiggins & KJ McDaniels!! Possibly THE highest flyers in the league!

Then, if you want bigs where's Blake Griffin at? Kenneth Faried certainly has hops, and won't be doing anything else that weekend, lol. About a month or so ago, Brandan Wright said he was keen, but where is he? Dude can jump out the building!!

I know it's been this way for the last say 10 years, but bring back the good old days where they had 6-8 dunkers, and 3 rounds to compete!!

 

[GarnettFan4Life]

I think there's WAY more worry about injuries now - players and owners saying no in case they get a freak injury and damage their brand or lose time in the season

 

[Mully]

Pretty ecstatic that Jeff Teague was selected as an all star from the coaches. Thoroughly deserved along with Sap and Horford. Lets hope Kyle Korver also gets in due to Wade being injured.

 

[exzibit3]

WTF. Tim Duncan over Demarcus Cousins.

 

[skip20]

It's not the biggest event over the weekend but was this years rookie crop so much better than the sophomores that they had to change it to USA v World? Can't be much fun getting booed by every American in attendance..... PLus one team is extremely small compared to the other, seems like a bit of a mismatch.

No Cousins or Lillard in the west????? Duncan and Wade - no, no, no....not this year!

 

[ozballer23]

WTF. Tim Duncan over Demarcus Cousins.

Cousins just been named to replace Kobe

 

[drob50]

WTF. Tim Duncan over Demarcus Cousins.

Duncan has been carrying an injury riddled team to a playoff berth, Cousins has been dominating a non playoff team yet again.

K Love looked good in MIN too!

 

[exzibit3]

Duncan has been carrying an injury riddled team to a playoff berth, Cousins has been dominating a non playoff team yet again.

K Love looked good in MIN too!

The All Star game is a showcase of individual talent, not a lifetime achievement award or which team has a better record. Come on. K Love has been selected to be an All Star 3 times in the last 4 years in Minnesota, the exception was the season when he was injured for the majority of it.

 

[GarnettFan4Life]

The snubs talk and "we have to change the fan vote" every year annoys the shit out of me.....is All Star Weekend for the fans or is it to recognise the best players of the season so far?

If it's for the fans then let them bloody vote! You can't penalise China because they have more fans that make the effort to vote and if you (NBA) decides to use 5 different social media platforms as options to vote then you have to assume that it may skew the voting numbers depending on influences (eg Bieber power).

If it's recognising the best players then have no fan vote and let the commish or NBA employees vote, let fans vote in the dunk comp scores or some other option. Fans will watch the game regardless of who plays in it.

No matter what is decided, you'll never be able to please everyone that's a fact!

 

[drob50]

The All Star game is a showcase of individual talent, not a lifetime achievement award or which team has a better record. Come on. K Love has been selected to be an All Star 3 times in the last 4 years in Minnesota, the exception was the season when he was injured for the majority of it.

Wrong. The all star game is a popularity contest for the starters (fans), then a genuine player appreciation vote for the bench (coaches). It's not about just the top players in the league, it should be, but isn't.

Spurs should be represented for having had the injuries they have had but stayed in playoffs unlike OKC. It's not fair to take away from someone who plays less minutes, but is equally as important.

 

[drob50]

The snubs talk and "we have to change the fan vote" every year annoys the s*** out of me.....is All Star Weekend for the fans or is it to recognise the best players of the season so far?

If it's for the fans then let them bloody vote! You can't penalise China because they have more fans that make the effort to vote and if you (NBA) decides to use 5 different social media platforms as options to vote then you have to assume that it may skew the voting numbers depending on influences (eg Bieber power).

If it's recognising the best players then have no fan vote and let the commish or NBA employees vote, let fans vote in the dunk comp scores or some other option. Fans will watch the game regardless of who plays in it.

No matter what is decided, you'll never be able to please everyone that's a fact!

Agree, he NBA wants a mix of the best and the favourites. Only way I can think of to please both is to Allow fans to vote for top 20 from each conference, then let coaches select teams from each voted group. That way they both contribute and people like Kobe don't get spots JUST on popularity

 

[GarnettFan4Life]

Agree, he NBA wants a mix of the best and the favourites. Only way I can think of to please both is to Allow fans to vote for top 20 from each conference, then let coaches select teams from each voted group. That way they both contribute and people like Kobe don't get spots JUST on popularity

Not a bad idea there I like it!

 

[exzibit3]

@drob50 your argument for Duncan being an All Star over Cousins was that Cousins was merely putting up numbers on a team that isn't playoff bound. This has never been the precedence nor criteria for All Star reserves. Every year you just need to look at the all star reserves to see examples of players selected for their individual brilliance as opposed to team success so I've got no clue what you are on about. Kyrie Irving pre Lebron? Jrue Holiday on a 34 win team? Andre Igoudala in Philly? Deron Williams in 2012? Obviously the starters are by fan popularity, that was never in dispute. Yao Ming? Hello?

 

[drob50]

@drob50 your argument for Duncan being an All Star over Cousins was that Cousins was merely putting up numbers on a team that isn't playoff bound. This has never been the precedence nor criteria for All Star reserves. Every year you just need to look at the all star reserves to see examples of players selected for their individual brilliance as opposed to team success so I've got no clue what you are on about. Kyrie Irving pre Lebron? Jrue Holiday on a 34 win team? Andre Igoudala in Philly? Deron Williams in 2012? Obviously the starters are by fan popularity, that was never in dispute. Yao Ming? Hello?

lol

The point is that there is more to a selection than stats on paper. Not all selections are for stat padders on bad teams. Cousins is carrying a team, but to a losing record, Duncan was carrying a team whose starting lineup had played less than 70 minutes of ball together this season a the time of selection. The Spurs were riddled with injuries and Duncan kept them moving. More than you can say Cousins does for his team.

It is not always about showcasing individual talent like you say, it is also about recognition for what players are doing for their team, ala Horford (and possibly Millsap) this year.

Duncan didn't make it last year, so there is no simple "lifetime achievement" basis for the selection. It is about who is important to their team.

I heard so much ranting BS about Deandre Jordan being a 'Snub' this year too because of what he does for the team and his FG%/Rebound lead combo. You have to take them in context. He is a full time cherry picker and does not deserve it over over Duncan or Cousins.

Plus Cousins is an overgrown baby!

And wasn't Yao voted in? not coaches selection.

 

[exzibit3]

Dude that was the point. There is no such requirement for a player to be on a playoff bound team as evidenced by multiple selection of players throughout the years who are on non-playoff teams. Which is why your contention that Duncan is chosen for that reason over Cousins makes no sense. It is and always will be a subjective choice by the coaches but to argue that Duncan is more deserving just because Cousins is on a non playoff bound team is nonsensical. And yes, Yao was voted as a starter which is my point. You were saying that it's a popularity contest for starters selection. I'm like, really.. well done Sherlock.

 

[drob50]

Dude that was the point. There is no such requirement for a player to be on a playoff bound team as evidenced by multiple selection of players throughout the years who are on non-playoff teams. Which is why your contention that Duncan is chosen for that reason over Cousins makes no sense. It is and always will be a subjective choice by the coaches but to argue that Duncan is more deserving just because Cousins is on a non playoff bound team is nonsensical. And yes, Yao was voted as a starter which is my point. You were saying that it's a popularity contest for starters selection. I'm like, really.. well done Sherlock.

I never said it was a requirement, I said it is a factor! Coaches will consider the effect of a player on their team and the position of the team as a result! Hence the Atlanta trio selected!

You were dumbing down TDs right to a spot by saying it is a career selection. My point that there is more to it than what you see from behing your screen. The simple fact that coaches DID choose to vote in Duncan means one of 2 things: they saw his value better than Cousins, or they had already decided on getting Cousins to take Kobe's spot. Either way, it is still a deserved selection for Timmy.

And using Yao where you did made no sense. You have examples of coaches selecting standouts on losing teams along with a guy that Kobe'd his way in through votes??

 

[GarnettFan4Life]

Trail Blazers guard Damian Lillard has been added to the All-Star team in place of Clippers forward Blake Griffin, who needs surgery for a staph infection in his right elbow.

 

[drob50]

Prediction time fellas!!

I got an auto for the closest. Just copy and paste the below and write your answers next to each field.

Rising Stars winning team - (USA or World)
Shooting stars winner: - (Team Bosh, Team Curry, Team Westbrook or Team Davis)
Skills challenge winner - (Thomas, Wall, MCW, Teague, Burke, Knight, Butler or Lowry)
3pt comp winner - (Matthews, Reddick, Harden, Irving, Curry, Thompson, Korver or Belinelli)
Dunk comp winner - (Antetokounmpo, Oladipo, Lavin or Plumlee)
ASG winning Team - (East or West)
ASG MVP - (Not listing all players)


Rising Stars winning team:
Shooting stars winner:
Skills challenge winner:
3pt comp winner:
Dunk comp winner:
ASG winning Team:
ASG MVP:

 

[drob50]

I am going:


Rising Stars winning team: USA
Shooting stars winner: Team Bosh (for the 3-peat)
Skills challenge winner: Teague
3pt comp winner: Korver
Dunk comp winner: Lavine
ASG winning Team: West
ASG MVP: Curry