Billyhoyle
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So plenty has been written about the diving saga.
what are your thoughts?
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Adam Goodes and Shane Warne in Twitter stoush over staging
Sydney Swans AFL News
Date
August 31, 2014
Criticised: Shane Warne accused Adam Goodes of 'staging' to win free-kicks in Sydney's loss to Richmond on Saturday. Photo: Getty Images
Adam Goodes says he will not change the way he plays the game after the AFL's latest staging controversy sparked a Twitter feud between the dual Brownlow Medallist and another Australian sporting icon, Shane Warne.
A defiant Goodes hit out at critics on Sunday – including former cricket great Warne – who suggest he plays for free kicks, saying those who had not played the game were not in a position to pass judgment on what happened out on the field.
His comments came after Warne accused Goodes of staging during Sydney's clash with Richmond and questioned whether the Swans champion was a worthy recipient of the Australian of the Year award. Warne later said Goodes' onfield behaviour was not befitting a person with that honour.
The storm started after Goodes fell to the ground after he and Richmond defender Alex Rance collided during Saturday's game, angering Tigers fans who believed he was trying to con the umpire into awarding him a free kick. Goodes was subsequently jeered by the yellow and black faithful.
Replays show Rance made contact with his left arm to Goodes's upper chest and neck region, though commentators on broadcaster Fox Sports believed he had over-accentuated the force. No free kick was awarded.
"I think he's made far too much of that to get a free kick," said three-time Brisbane premiership winner Alastair Lynch, who was calling the game.
The AFL website also questioned Goodes's actions, posting a video of the incident under the title "Goodes hit or bad acting?"
Warne went a step further, tweeting to his 1.67 million followers on Twitter: "Come on tigers beat those Swans and make the finals. By the way, does everyone get annoyed when Adam Goodes always 'stages' for free kicks?"
Warne, in a tweet directed at Australian cricket captain Michael Clarke, later claimed to be "shocked" that Goodes had been named Australian of the Year, an honour he was awarded seven months ago.
"I think Syd or the Hawks will win the flag. Shocked as I just found out Goodes was Aust of the year, wow ! Who votes for that?" Warne wrote. Clarke, however, described Goodes as a "champion".
Goodes responded on the social networking service on Sunday morning, telling Warne: "Thanks for your support mate maybe ask @gilly381 [Adam Gilchrist] who votes for it he is the chair of the Australia Day Council." The post was later deleted.
Warne then said Goodes should "just stop staging for free kicks mate. You should be better than that as Aust of the year!!! Good luck in the finals."
Warne, Test cricket's second-leading wicket-taker, was known for his robust appealing during his illustrious career.
Goodes had earlier expressed his frustration at the scrutiny over his sportsmanship. Although widely regarded as a champion of the game, there are supporters of rival clubs who feel he stages for free kicks.
"It's disappointing some of the commentators who have actually played the game but most of the people have never played the game before make these calls on what happens out on the footy field," Goodes said.
"Until you've been out on the footy field and you cop what happens out there, it's hard for them to make judgment.
"It's disappointing from the players who are ex-players because they've been out there, they know what it's like out there on the ground.
"People are going to have their comments, that's their right to do that. Does it bother me, is it going to affect me the way I play my footy or go about it next week? Definitely not. That's their criticism. Whether it's unfair or not, it doesn't bother me, to be honest."
Other stars who have been criticised for staging this year include 2007 Brownlow Medallist Jimmy Bartel, of Geelong, and North Melbourne's Lindsay Thomas, who was publicly rebuked by his coach Brad Scott for "diving".
Players can be reprimanded by the match review panel for staging.
Goodes will this week play his first final since the 2012 decider after missing the second half of last season through injury.
Goodes is yet to make a decision on whether will play on next year and said he had not spoken to the club's coaching staff about the topic for a month.
"I'm very lucky [that] the position of the football club is it's all on my terms," Goodes said.
"A lot of players don't get that opportunity, unfortunately, so I'm very lucky to have that."
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/adam-goodes-and-shane-warne-in-twitter-stoush-over-staging-20140831-10akmf.html#ixzz3C3v10F00
Sydney Swans AFL News
Date
August 31, 2014
Criticised: Shane Warne accused Adam Goodes of 'staging' to win free-kicks in Sydney's loss to Richmond on Saturday. Photo: Getty Images
Adam Goodes says he will not change the way he plays the game after the AFL's latest staging controversy sparked a Twitter feud between the dual Brownlow Medallist and another Australian sporting icon, Shane Warne.
A defiant Goodes hit out at critics on Sunday – including former cricket great Warne – who suggest he plays for free kicks, saying those who had not played the game were not in a position to pass judgment on what happened out on the field.
His comments came after Warne accused Goodes of staging during Sydney's clash with Richmond and questioned whether the Swans champion was a worthy recipient of the Australian of the Year award. Warne later said Goodes' onfield behaviour was not befitting a person with that honour.
The storm started after Goodes fell to the ground after he and Richmond defender Alex Rance collided during Saturday's game, angering Tigers fans who believed he was trying to con the umpire into awarding him a free kick. Goodes was subsequently jeered by the yellow and black faithful.
Replays show Rance made contact with his left arm to Goodes's upper chest and neck region, though commentators on broadcaster Fox Sports believed he had over-accentuated the force. No free kick was awarded.
"I think he's made far too much of that to get a free kick," said three-time Brisbane premiership winner Alastair Lynch, who was calling the game.
The AFL website also questioned Goodes's actions, posting a video of the incident under the title "Goodes hit or bad acting?"
Warne went a step further, tweeting to his 1.67 million followers on Twitter: "Come on tigers beat those Swans and make the finals. By the way, does everyone get annoyed when Adam Goodes always 'stages' for free kicks?"
Warne, in a tweet directed at Australian cricket captain Michael Clarke, later claimed to be "shocked" that Goodes had been named Australian of the Year, an honour he was awarded seven months ago.
"I think Syd or the Hawks will win the flag. Shocked as I just found out Goodes was Aust of the year, wow ! Who votes for that?" Warne wrote. Clarke, however, described Goodes as a "champion".
Goodes responded on the social networking service on Sunday morning, telling Warne: "Thanks for your support mate maybe ask @gilly381 [Adam Gilchrist] who votes for it he is the chair of the Australia Day Council." The post was later deleted.
Warne then said Goodes should "just stop staging for free kicks mate. You should be better than that as Aust of the year!!! Good luck in the finals."
Warne, Test cricket's second-leading wicket-taker, was known for his robust appealing during his illustrious career.
Goodes had earlier expressed his frustration at the scrutiny over his sportsmanship. Although widely regarded as a champion of the game, there are supporters of rival clubs who feel he stages for free kicks.
"It's disappointing some of the commentators who have actually played the game but most of the people have never played the game before make these calls on what happens out on the footy field," Goodes said.
"Until you've been out on the footy field and you cop what happens out there, it's hard for them to make judgment.
"It's disappointing from the players who are ex-players because they've been out there, they know what it's like out there on the ground.
"People are going to have their comments, that's their right to do that. Does it bother me, is it going to affect me the way I play my footy or go about it next week? Definitely not. That's their criticism. Whether it's unfair or not, it doesn't bother me, to be honest."
Other stars who have been criticised for staging this year include 2007 Brownlow Medallist Jimmy Bartel, of Geelong, and North Melbourne's Lindsay Thomas, who was publicly rebuked by his coach Brad Scott for "diving".
Players can be reprimanded by the match review panel for staging.
Goodes will this week play his first final since the 2012 decider after missing the second half of last season through injury.
Goodes is yet to make a decision on whether will play on next year and said he had not spoken to the club's coaching staff about the topic for a month.
"I'm very lucky [that] the position of the football club is it's all on my terms," Goodes said.
"A lot of players don't get that opportunity, unfortunately, so I'm very lucky to have that."
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/adam-goodes-and-shane-warne-in-twitter-stoush-over-staging-20140831-10akmf.html#ixzz3C3v10F00
Scotty_WCE
West Coast card collector!
Hmm, it clearly looked like staging to me. Bit of an unnecessary shot from Warnie, but then he is always outspoken. Blown into a huge issue by the media, should have just been play on, maybe a reprimand from the tribunal, and that's it. I'm sure that would stop it, and it closes the issue.
Lazlow
OzCardTrader
I think I said it when they let Lindsay Thomas off
If you don't send a message other guys will do it.
Can't believe how incredulous Bartel was.
If you don't send a message other guys will do it.
Can't believe how incredulous Bartel was.
Shaunao1983
OzCardTrader
The AFL do need to stamp it out before it becomes a big deal , not that I think it's that rife in the game. Award a free kick against Anyone that dives so it has a detrimental effect on your team if you do dive. That and more honesty from the players is the solution. What I mean by more honesty is players not diving or carrying on in the first place. All in all it's really not that bad at the moment. As a soccer fan I'm sick and tired of players trying to con the ref and trying to get players yellow or red carded. Happens all the time and it does pee me off. But the AFL is not even close to that epidemic. I also think that most AFL players wouldn't want a reputation for being a diver so I'm not that worried.
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Shaunao1983
OzCardTrader
I won't remember Goodes for being a diver. The bloke has copped a lot more crap than he's given.
BLOWN8
Such is life!
I hate seeing it in the game, and Adam Goodes name keep coming up more often. He has been a diver for a while now. I don't think a free kick at the time is the right thing, as its hard for the umpires to decide between a dive and a genuine free kick on the spur of the moment. Its easier for us at home to watch it from 15 different angles in slow motion. I think a fine is the right thing to do. And to be honest, if the AFL are serious about stamping this sort of rubbish out, they need to grow some balls and actually fine Goodes. But does anyone actually think they will? Of coarse they wont, Sydney and Goodes are protected by the AFL so sadly it will never happen.
Matty76
Banned User
What frustrates me is that you would rarely see more extravagant examples than the ones by Lindsay Thomas, Jimmy Bartel and Adam Goodes. The Channel 7 team joked that "Jimmy's got plenty of credits in the bank". The AFL is so bloody reactionary in other areas of the game, yet they allow simulation to go unpunished.
Lazlow
OzCardTrader
Yet they had no drama jumping on Waite even though contact was made.
Goodes was plain terrible.
He got hit by the ball and a hand around the chest and acted like he had his head taken off.
Just because he's Australian of the year doesn't mean he should get away with it.
They need to make an example out of one of the players that do it so they can stamp it out.
We don't need the AFL turning into Soccer
He got hit by the ball and a hand around the chest and acted like he had his head taken off.
Just because he's Australian of the year doesn't mean he should get away with it.
They need to make an example out of one of the players that do it so they can stamp it out.
We don't need the AFL turning into Soccer
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